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Joel Siegel

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Journalist
 
Noted ABC television journalist and five-time local Emmy Award winner Joel Siegel died of cancer on June 29, 2007 at the age of 63. He is survived by his wife and son.
   

   
Noted Film Critic

June 29, 2007
Fans of the local ABC affiliate in New York (and later on the nationally broadcast Good Morning America) will remember Siegel as ABC's answer to Gene Shalit. His sense of humor and non-threatening style contributed to the overall warmth he was able to extract out of each of his celebrity interviewees, including his two-day sit-down with Barbra Streisand in 1996. Her appearance with him on Good Morning America (November 13 and 14) was one of the more insightful interviews to come out of her press junket for "The Mirror Has Two Faces."

 

  The "Mirror" Interview

Here is the transcript of Joel Siegel's November 13, 1996 interview with Barbra Streisand:

Joel Siegel (introducing the piece): First of all, she surprised me. You think of Barbra Streisand, superstar, bigger than life. But she's small, even fragile looking. Another surprise: most actors really aren't like the characters they play. Woody Allen, when he's -- I'm going to blow this for him -- when he's not in character, his voice is deeper, he's very forceful, he's a director. But Streisand is very much like the character she plays, and we talked about that.

Siegel: Who is this woman you play? Who is Rose?

Barbra Streisand: Someone who doesn't really believe in herself, except for her intellect. I think she believes in her intellect, but she doesn't believe in her womanliness, her sexuality, doesn't think she's beautiful, was never told she was pretty, and grows up in -- within that kind of, you know, background as a child. So she's conditioned by life and by experience to think of herself as a certain kind of person. So until she changes her inner self, the world will not change their viewpoint of her. Men won't look at her in a different way. So it's an intriguing story of transformation.

Siegel: I have to ask, how much of Rose is you?

Barbra: Oh, a lot, probably. Probably a lot. But, of course, for me to play a character, I have to believe her, I have to know her, whether she's -- I mean, there's the part of me that is a -- as a psychiatrist in Dr. Lowenstein. I could be a psychiatrist with all the therapy I've had, though. And Rose, a teacher, my father went to Columbia Teachers College. It meant a lot to me to work at Columbia University. And part of me is like my father. I think I could be a teacher. I'm passionate about what I talk about, you know, in that class, about romance and love.

Siegel: (voice-over) But while Barbra searches for passion, math professor Jeff Bridges seeks a totally platonic relationship. Barbra's his solution -- smart, fun, and no physical attraction. It all adds up, for Bridges.

Barbra: He says to her early on that, ‘What's great about our relationship is that we're not in love. You won't get that painful, sick feeling in your stomach.’ So it makes so much sense logically. We'll have a relationship out of friendship and respect and trust. It's not the full picture. I mean, he's so hurt by sexuality and passion that he craves -- you know, he can't deal with it, it screws up his life. So he decides to have a nonsexual relationship. But that screws up your life. I mean, we're all looking for a total experience, don't you think?

Siegel: Yes. But are we looking for something that you -- we can't find?

Barbra: I don't think so, no, I think we can find it. I think it's there to be found, if you're open to it and ready for it.

Siegel: (voice-over) And there, "Mirror" mirrors Streisand's off-screen life, a new relationship with actor James Brolin.

Barbra: Oh, we have a wonderful relationship. I don't want -- it's very private, and it's very -- I treasure it, you know, and somehow I don't want to exploit it. But it's very powerful. And I think in a sense we also can manifest what we want. You know, in a way, I made this movie to sort of manifest something I needed in my own life. I thought, it's about time to make an uplifting picture about the positive aspects of love, to make a movie where there's a happy ending, where the woman gets the guy, unlike "Prince of Tides" or "The Way We Were" or "Funny Girl" or "Funny Lady," you know, so many of the movies I've made, she doesn't get the guy. And I thought, God, you know, we need happy endings in this world. You know, there's enough.

Siegel: (voice-over) OK, remember she gave it away first. Yes, there is a happy ending, but not without a bit of New York angst. The ending, on the streets of New York. Those were real cars zipping by and...

Barbra: Oh, yes, yes. Well, real cars, it's -- as a matter of fact, at the end they're our taxis, and they wouldn't stop for us. That was really true. Because I had said, you know -- we had a few minutes to capture this ending, this dancing in the streets, and it was about to rain, and the guy-- you know, the taxi drivers, the stunt drivers, they'll never stop unless they're told to. And we're improvising out there. This is not rehearsed. So it was so funny that it worked so well, right, which is totally true to the story, that we're dancing in the streets, and no taxi in New York's going to stop for these nuts, you know. It was wonderful.

Siegel: (closing the piece) This is a wonderful film. She is just terrific. She is smart. She's an artist. And she doesn't apologize for being smart and talented.